What’s your best dressed subculture?
L: "I’d have to say original rude boy, like the front cover of The Specials. That complete cross-section between reggae, punk, skins and mod, where they’re thrown in all together. The mixture between smart and casual. Teddy Boys look great, but I hate uniforms. As long as it doesn’t look too much like you’re wearing the same thing everyday."
Punk is currently being celebrated as a 40th year anniversary, something which Malcom McLaren’s son Joe is wholeheartedly against, going as far to say he’s going to burn £5 million worth of memorabilia from the era. Where do you stand? Do you agree it should be honoured?
L: "Just sounds exactly what you think Malcolm McLaren son would sound like: attention seeking. I don’t know, it’s a shame how overdone the Sex Pistols are, because you lose sight of how good that record was for the time. The whole stigma of being punk is quite a shame, the mohawk and studs, there’s a lot of stuff that’s lost in translation. We don’t celebrate other things in that way, so just enjoy the music every day. I do think all these festivals are a bit cheesy though.
Isaac: "There’s no need for it, really."
L: "I’m not into it. I think we’ve got to wait until they’re all dead. Joe Strummer’s stuff, wicked. But it’s a bit creepy going to see all of Mick Jones’ stuff."
Do you still see punk alive today?
L: "There are elements of punk in grime, but punk wasn’t invented to be successful and grime is. The lyrics in grime are about doing better and self-achievement, whereas punk is very anarchist and political. Grime has a lot of political undertones, but a lot of grime artists rap about how good their bars are and how shit yours are. But I fucking hate genres, I’d prefer to call it primal. The attitude of anarchy and not following the norm is what we relate to and what grime relates to."